Sources: https://deppdive.net/australia.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCVNIIxdnP4 AH: I’m really sorry. JD: [inaudible] I’m leaving. I guess you’re leaving Monday? I wish you f**king understood what you are, and who you are, and how you’ve f**ked me over and made me feel sick – of myself! There’s still light left in the day, maybe you should dye your hair to the roots! David Kipper (DK): You’re heading out? JD: [inaudible] DK: Because there’s still – there’s is still time enough to get this put back on. He’s gonna need a skin graft. Can you hear me? Otherwise he’s gonna need a skin graft, probably. But I’m trying to find where they put the fingertip. Ben King (BK): [inaudible] Dr Kipper: Yeah look, she did this. Look, Ben. I can’t find the fingertip. Debbie Lloyd (DL): Okay, what? DK: I can’t find the fingertip. DL: Here is this blood. All this is all blood. DK: I know but it would have been – I looked, and it would have been where the initial injury— DL: Holy f**k. DK: Well, actually it could be in here too. DL: Wow, wow, wow. DK: Just so you know, I don’t know if you can tell, but it shattered the bone. DL: Awesome. DK: [inaudible] but we shouldn’t take it. DL: I’ll show Nathan [inaudible]. DK: The majority of the blood, Debbie is downstairs, but I went through that really carefully. Oh wait, someone tried to clean something up. You know, I’m really concerned, because he’s got a lot of paint. DL: A lot of pain? DK: Paint. He’s got a lot of pain also. Blue paint – you saw it? DL: No. DK: Well, it’s very vulnerable to getting infected. He’s gonna need a skin graft. My reasoning, which may be wrong, is it should be where all the blood is, and that’s down there. DL: Yeah, I’m gonna take it – let me go give this to Hans and then I’ll come back and look. DK: Debbie? I’ve looked at it really carefully. Plus Ben’s down there, he didn’t – he didn’t couldn’t see it either. DL: Okay. DK: We couldn’t find it. Alright, Jerry— [It sounds like a door slams from AH entering the room.] AH: It’s not in the trash in the entrance, or— DK: My advice: Amber’s gotta take care of herself, we’ve gotta take care of him. They can’t be together now – it’s gonna set her off, [inaudible]. So however, Amber, I think she should be in Los Angeles with her support system. And this has to run its course. And this is not gonna be one day, it’s gonna be a few days. AH: How bad am I? [Starts crying] DL: I think someone needs to fly with her. DK: Jerry can fly with her. DL: She won’t fly with Jerry. DK: She doesn’t have a choice. DL: She told me [inaudible]. DK: To be honest, I don’t give a s**t. I mean, I don’t – I don’t mean to invalidate what you’re saying, but— DL: No, but I was just wondering if there’s another person. That’s what I’m saying. DK: Well, I asked those same questions earlier. And it always comes back to Jerry [inaudible] for that reason: that he’s not gonna be manipulated, he’s a strong guy. DL: Um, yeah, is there a trash that has bandages in it? DK: Good work, Ben. [More banging noises and inaudible talking.] DK: Is he gone by the way? DL: Yes. Which I feel like they should have another car take him, if they can’t come out to get him. DK: Now look through this. I looked through it once, and I didn’t see anything that looked like flesh. If it’s in here – oh, I bet it’s in here. AH: [inaudible] all because I’m here, it’s all because of me! DK: He’s got this all over him. I mean, he’s gonna get infected, so Deb, we have to set up [inaudible]. Looks like he tried to do something. DL: How big a piece of skin are we looking for? DK: You’re looking at this: you’re looking at like a third of the tip of his finger. And I mean, he’s gonna get a cellulitis. AH: Johnny thinks, he thinks it’s my fault! He thinks— DK: Maybe she should have something. AH: I love him! I never meant to hurt him! I didn’t do it! DK: I told Ben we’d cover if the police investigate. DL: Can I give her Seroquel? DK: What? DL: 50 of Seroquel? [inaudible] AH: He needs me right now! Me! DL: She only usually takes 25. Do you want to go to 50? DK: Of the Seroquel? DL: Yeah. DK: I’d be okay with 100, but give her 50. Take her upstairs. I’ll tell you what’s going on right now, with her. This is guilt. This is guilt. DL: She won’t take 50. I gave her 25 and 300 and said we’d reassess in a little bit. AH: [inaudible] over! And I feel like this is a nightmare! I don’t want, I don’t want to go if he stays. I don’t want people talking about this! I don’t feel like it! I am losing him! I don’t want him to run away! I might never see him again! Jerry Judge (JJ): I understand. AH: Go back and say what? [JJ starts making a a series of phone calls. He seems to be whispering because he doesn’t want AH to hear.] DK on phone: [inaudible] JJ: Ok, Ben’s gotta put it – BK: [inaudible]. JJ: Yeah, put it [inaudible], mate. BK: [inaudible]. JJ: What do you want? We can take it straight to you, I can get him in the car with Hans, and he can drive straight now. What do you want me to do? DK: [inaudible] JJ: Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, yeah, no. What we’ll do: I’ll get it, I’ll put it in a bin [inaudible], okay? Okay, well [inaudible], okay? DK: [inaudible] JJ: Okay, that’s good. Okay, I’ll send it back then, okay? DK: [inaudible] [Unknown caller speaks.] JJ: Ben’s gonna go as we speak. I’m staying. David’s still not letting her talk to John. So you know what’s going on. She made it quite personal: she can’t trust me, because I told Christi – I told Christi that she called him a “fat old man”. And I’m talking to her, and she’s listening. She wants to go wherever he is. She knows she’s going, but she thinks she’s [inaudible] right now. AH: Did I do this to the whole floor? JJ: Sit down. [inaudible] AH: I’m going upstairs [inaudible]. JJ: Amber, how long since you took it? AH: And this was today, by the way. Not just the painting thing, and he just— JJ: Let’s discuss the cabinet thing, and the glass window. Amber, maybe we should start sorting this out. [AH closes the door as she leaves.] JJ: She’s upstairs at the moment. Christi Dembrowski (CD) on phone: [inaudible] JJ: No no no no, no, no, no. I think we can keep her, around Brisbane, Brisbane airport, and keep her well hidden. CD: [inaudible] JJ: At the moment, he’s in Malcolm’s room. He is asleep. He’s sleeping like a baby, so he’s good. And I’m talking to her, and hopefully she’ll let us do what we wanna do. But she hasn’t given me a final answer that she’ll go. She doesn’t want to go home. She wants to stay here and see him. CD: [inaudible] JJ: Well, Ben’s saying – Ben is saying she’s happy, and he’s happy to go with her. So, you know, I’ve got her talking to me, and she keeps crying, she keeps holding my hand. She’s made it quite clear to me, she said: “I thought I trusted you, and I don’t because you told Christi that I called Johnny a fat old man.” And I said “yes I did”. And I said— CD: [inaudible] JJ: No, no – I’m – she turned around and said, “Johnny had a phone call at five different times over the last couple weeks, saying his sister said that Jerry told him.” Look, this is what she was saying to me. I said: “Amber, you said a bunch of things, but I’m not gonna lie to you. I told you I would never lie for you or to you, and I won’t lie to Johnny.” So, she is talking to me. She’s obviously crying up and down, up in her room. And they gave her some meds. And Debbie said – Debbie said she’d sleep for two or three hours. Just so you know, I’ve still got another one in my pocket, which David gave me and said “if she wakes up too early, give her another one and she will sleep through the night.” So we’re deciding what to do and we’re hoping she’ll crack. CD: [inaudible] JJ: I don’t know if we can, but we’ve all got to get her on that plane in the morning. Ben’s happy to fly with her. But what we also need to do is get this place cleaned up. This— CD: [inaudible] JJ: Well, look, I’ve already played with the devil once. I’m happy to do so. I’m happy to answer. Doesn’t bother me at all. I’m happy to get her back and hand her over, and – and then we let nature take its course. But I’ve already said to Stephen, tomorrow has to be cancelled, filmwise has to be cancelled, okay? He’s in no fit state. He’s in no fit state. CD: [inaudible] JJ: I’m obviously still talking, she didn’t [inaudible]. I’m still talking to Amber, she’s hearing what I’m saying but— CD: [inaudible] JJ: Okay. Okay. Okay, alright, I hear what you’re saying. I’m just – look, I’ve seen Johnny hurt, I’ve never seen him this hurt ever. I’m not saying that he wrecked this place. I mean, it’s wrecked. The window’s broken, the TV… She did it. There was a cup thrown, it missed. There’s been bottles thrown, and she – she admits to me she threw the first – she threw a bottle at him. She did it first. She admits to me that, and I said to her, ‘[inaudible]’, and she says ‘I disagreed and refused to do it, in my temper.’ And he was shouting at her, screaming at her. She has scratches on her left arm, which Debbie told about. Look, I’ve seen those scratches before on other people, and as far as I’m concerned, they’re self-inflicted. I’m convinced of that, self-inflicted. CD: [inaudible] JJ: Christi, at the moment, at the moment, I’ll do a deal with the devil and calm this lady down. Because we’ll be sending a car to Kipper [inaudible]. “We need you on this to get this whole thing calmed down.” And you know: “I’ve been hurt this, I’ve been hurt that, he started this”, and I can understand why. And she admitted, also, that she hit him first. She actually hit him in the face. JJ: But he has a small burn on the right-hand side of his face, which she says – CD: [inaudible] JJ: I’ve seen that yesterday, and she says – she said on Friday he got a cigarette and put it out on his own face. With a cigarette, he was so out of it. [At some point, perhaps here, JJ calls Stephen Deuters (SD).] JJ: He – he’s not well. We need to help him out in every way we possibly can. But we need to talk about how to convince her. She’s not doing any good here. She’s still sometimes listening, sometimes not, and I said: “You can’t help him, you can’t. You two need to be separated. You can speak on the phone, but you need to leave him alone.” By the way, we have now found a piece of flesh from the top of his finger, okay? It’s packed in ice. It’s on its way back to – I’ve already spoken with Malcolm – it’s packed in ice and it’s on its way back now in a bag wrapped up with Hans. He just thinks it’s Johnny’s bandage. And I’m still – I’m still talking to her. I’ll be honest with you, she is responding to me. She breaks down every 5 minutes. She’s made it quite clear that he has told her I’m on the last two weeks of my job, but she said “I have stood up for you so many times, but how could you let me down by telling Christi that I called him a fat old man?” And I said, “I did, because I’m not gonna lie for you Amber – I’m not lying to John.” And then 5 minutes later, 5 minutes later she said “Do you think he loves me?” SD: [inaudible] JJ: No, I’ll cancel that for now until we can – right, she pretends that she’s going to go there peacefully, to LA. Ben has said he’d go with her, but Christi said “May I ask it be you or Malcolm? It has to be someone strong in case she kicks off.” So, we hope that we’ve convinced her to go and stay in a hotel. I’ll go and ask her, just in case. And I’ll see what Malcolm wants to do. I’ll see what Malcolm wants to do. Because Malcolm has said – not him, his mum said, his mum called, sorry – if he wants to fly home back to England, I’ll send him. If not, I’m gonna be heading to LA with her to get her out of here. Look, it’s all hit and miss. It’s all, one minute she agrees, and “no I’ll stay here.” I tried to get her earlier to go back her bags, to get her out of here tonight and go back. SD: [inaudible] JJ: Stephen, I’ll tell you, I’ve been budgeting this out: there’s fifty to seventy-five thousand worth of damages here. There’s blood everywhere. And we’ll clean it up. There’s three settees, at least two of them are covered in blood, which is bad ’cause we won’t get it all off. The bedroom upstairs is a f**king— SD: [inaudible] JJ: Down in the bar, he drank everything in the last week [inaudible]. Her words were: “Within two hours he took ten, ten ecstasy tablets.” SD: [inaudible] JJ: Once this is all over, this is not the time to talk about it – I’m saying, I’m frightened, if someone keeps supplying him, he’s gonna OD on this. She said “But on top of that, he drank tequila. He drank vodka.” She said “how good can vodka cover the breath?” Because she said he didn’t want me to smell it. When I came down to help him, he was drinking, okay? He calmed down, he did stop drinking for Kipper. And then he picked up one of the bottles and threw it through the window. SD: [inaudible] JJ: Right, um, I know he’s asleep at the moment, resting. SD: [inaudible] JJ: Look, hang on a second, I’m not disagreeing. I’m not gonna say she did it, or he did it. But I found bottles that were empty, and David’s not done it, and David has said it hasn’t been poured down the sink. But when I got here today, she was stone cold sober – she doesn’t smell of booze. So if you can, find out more from him. I can’t say, I don’t f**king know. Stephen, if you were here now and listened to the way she’s talking to me: everything that’s happened here is completely Johnny’s fault. SD: [inaudible] JJ: I don’t think she needs that. All she wants to do – all she wants to do is – SD: [inaudible] JJ: Look, Stephen, I’ll admit, I’ll give her anything to get her the f**k out of here. That’s all I wanna do. And Christi said, “what if she declines?” I said, I will tell her everything that she wants to hear, but we need her the f**k out of here. She’s gotta go home. BK: I said I’d give her a couple minutes – that was what went at the TV, or—? JJ: No, looks like a cup hit the TV. Yeah, the cup hit the TV. BK: Could be evidence. JJ: I’ll be honest with you: I think she did it. BK: You do? JJ: I’ll tell you why. I think she was here, and I think she did it, because he’s normally sitting over there. Wouldn’t make any f**king difference. Doesn’t make any f**king difference, does it? BK: No. Um – I said I’d give her a couple of minutes and help her finish packing. JJ: I need to know. I need to know what time. BK: [inaudible] hotel [inaudible] see if she up for it. JJ: Let me know, and I’ll get onto Christi. BK: I’ll let you know as quick as I can. JJ: Be careful mate. Even when she’s in there, up in her room, she listens to you. BK: Does she? JJ: Do you think she’s doing coke? Maybe she did that? You think she’s using coke on the side and that screws with her medicine? BK: [inaudible] JJ: You know who could have got it? Nathan. BK: [inaudible] coming by to get this place cleaned. JJ: Listen to me, if it was Nathan, I’d have to make myself just walk out ’cause I’d get angry. And if she’s got him paying for it, then Nathan’s probably gonna lose his job. BK: [inaudible] I don’t know. It’s an impossible situation. JJ: Do you think it’s 75 K, damages? BK: Oh easily, probably more. JJ: It is. It is. He’s awake – I presume he’s awake. That’s what they’re saying. Hans said they just left the hotel. So I’m assuming he’s awake, for them to take him down there to have it done. And I will say, it is true, the quicker you get it done, the quicker it takes, it’ll heal a lot quicker. Okay? Let’s see if we can just get the room, two rooms in my name or whatever, two rooms just using my name, and then we’ll see what she wants to do. She’s changing her mind every five minutes, okay? Unknown woman on phone: [inaudible] JJ: Yeah. I understand. Okay. Unknown woman: [inaudible] JJ: Well, he’s taking her. I’ll be honest with you, I believe – I do believe the way she is, we need – if she kicks off, we need someone strong like me or Malcolm to be with her. But I will say, Ben has been upstairs with her for two hours, he’s been talking to her, and he has a way of just keeping her calm. What I do not want to do at the moment is jeopardize what we’re doing with Johnny, ’cause his finger comes first. And you know what, seriously love, if she has to stay here an extra 24 hours ’till we get him sorted out, f**k it, she stays here for another 24 hours if we have to. ’Cause Johnny, Johnny’s more important. Unknown woman: [inaudible] JJ: I’ll be honest with you as well: the way she talks, she’s breaking down and crying, but at the same moment she’s packing her bag. So she knows what she’s doing. I don’t think she intends to do anything stupid. Unknown woman: [inaudible] JJ: Well, she keeps saying “I don’t want to lose him, I don’t want to leave him”. And I am saying to her, “Look, he needs some time on his own, and then when he’s on his own, we’ll remind him and then you two can talk on the phone, and then you can come back.” But, no matter what happens, she needs to leave Australia, to get the f**k out of here. She really does. And that’s Kipper’s idea apparently. Unknown woman: [inaudible] JJ: She says he’d done at least a bottle of vodka, a bottle of tequila, and she reckons he took ten ecstasy tablets that were in the bag. Unknown woman: [inaudible] JJ: And the other thing that she has made quite clear to me: she said “I stood up for you on a number of occasions, and I trusted you, but I don’t trust you anymore.” Because apparently over the last two weeks, Johnny has turned around and said “you’re with a fat old man.” I didn’t say that. And she said, “yes you are, because Christi told me ’cause she said that Jerry told me.” And she asked me, and I said: “Yes I did.” CD: [inaudible] JJ: Hello. Ok, we’re still talking, and I’m trying to clean up as much as we can. She seems to be quite happy, I’m asking her. And she seems to be happy if Ben travels with her. Now, she’s also saying to me, if I stay here, do I promise that I’ll keep her up to date on what’s happening to him, and I said I would. She’s still upstairs, she hasn’t come down yet. We think she might be sleeping. Now, my question - my question is to you, are you happy for that to happen? So I don’t care either way. I’m happy to travel to LA and drop her off. CD: [inaudible] JJ: Christi, I’ll be honest with you, I’ll be honest with you. She knows exactly what she’s doing. CD: What? JJ: She knows exactly what she’s doing. CD: [inaudible] JJ: No, I’m saying Amber. Amber, she does. She’s not a fool. CD: [inaudible] JJ: Yes, exactly. CD: [inaudible] JJ: Exactly. Now - CD: [inaudible] JJ: Yeah, yeah, pick him up and bring him through, get a car and take it to the apartment. And I’ve asked her, “would she go and see her shrink?” She said she would. And as soon as she's calm, and as soon as David has given his medication and medically gets [inaudible] sorted out, then maybe later on, in a week, in two days or in seven, whatever David tells us, that maybe then we should talk. And she keeps obviously doing the usual thing and breaking down in tears, saying “should I go, should I go, should I go?” CD: [inaudible] JJ: Yes. “Shall I leave, shall I leave, shall I stay here and wait?” And I just said “Look, I’ll be honest with you, they don’t want you to see him, because at the moment, that’s the problem.” And at least she’s listening, but I mean every 5 minutes she’s bursting into tears. CD: [inaudible] JJ: Now, what I will say to you is that I know David’s working on it. I’ve just spoken to Stephen. They’re at the hospital waiting for the hand surgeon to come in, to try and fix Johnny’s finger. So that’s okay, alright? Alright. AH: I was upstairs, trying to pack, and I found bags of coke and whatever else. JJ: How much did you find? AH: Empty bags. JJ: Empty bags? May I ask, how many did you find? AH: Two. Two. One had been – one looks like it used to be crushed up coke. Um, the other one has coke everywhere. JJ: [inaudible] AH: That means it’s coke he’s hiding from me. All on top of Xanax, Adderall, ecstasy, and hallucinogens. AH: I hate that he hates me. I hate that I’m the one that has to deal with all the hurt. You know, I mean, I hate that I’m the element that really sets it off. I hate that, Jerry. I don’t want to be that. I really hate it. Jerry, my heart’s already broke and I feel like I’m not gonna get him back. JJ: I don’t believe that. That’s not my point of view. I don’t believe that for a second. AH: You know, I wanted – I was trying to make a very calm rational point, and it’s hard to tell somebody, you know it’s hard to tell sometimes, before he goes off the deep end of course. And I was trying to talk to him, rationally and stuff, and then of course it’s, you know, a fight. Before we can even process, we’re in the same awkward position. JJ: [inaudible] AH: Sorry, I feel so stupid, Jerry! I brought all my stuff over here, I shipped things. And I f**ked up. I feel so stupid. I feel like I’m really lost. JJ: [inaudible] I’ll tell you as best I can. AH: Thank you guys so much. I’m so sorry. JJ: It’s all part of the job, sweetheart. It’s all part of the job. It’s all part of the job. [inaudible] put all this in the garage? BK: You reckon we roll this up? JJ: Yeah. BK: And we probably need to think about what to replace it with. [Inaudible. AH walks toward the audio recording.] AH: Jerry? JJ: Yeah? AH: So, we don’t have the hotel yet… Full list of transcripts: https://pastebin.com/3zdSHmet